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Hosts & Applications (Sequencers, DAWs, Audio Editors, etc.) • Re: Where is Reason 13?

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In my opinion Reason wipes the floor with Studio One when it comes to dealing with AUDIO, but tbh I don't see the point in discussing this with someone who considers automation, freezing, creating sends and what not "audio workflow". :shrug:

Studio One is a huge pain in the arse when it comes to audio because its take-management is one sad mess, so until they fix that there's no way I'd ever recommend it for audio-recording to anyone; not even if I hated the guts of that person.

But yeah: ARA - that's certainly a very good point and its lack is the uhm... reason I stopped using Reason.


Workflow? Well, mate, that totally depends on yours. But you are of course utterly wrong when you claim Reason had nothing to offer that S1 doesn't do at least as well - did you even ever use Reason as a DAW? Because if you did that would make your claim even more absurd&inexcuseable. (Cause just plain wrong - and obviously so)

Just for starters:

- Reason has a tuner directly on each audio-track

- Reason's comp-editor has its own individual zoom- and snap-settings

- Reason has a built-in very good pitch-editor
Look at my signature homie. I've been a Reason user since 2.5. Bought Record when it came out and upgraded to 6 when Record got renamed to Reason. I'm more than familiar with Reason and moved away from it specifically because its audio features are clunky to use compared to not just Studio One but almost every other DAW I own (except maybe Bitwig and Ableton, imo).

Workflow wise S1 audio is not only more fully featured but overall just easier to use with less issues (again imo).

- Tuner on each audio track. S1 has a tuner device and since S1 has those compact mixer views I can see the tuner directly in the mixer. So I don't see why this is some kind of plus for Reason. Throw a tuner on a channel, or better yet use a Track Preset that has everything you need ready to go.

- Zoom and Snap. That's cool. S1 has individual Bend/Warp marker per take/layer. I find that far more useful. In Reason if you are in comp mode you can't edit or manipulate slice markers, you can't do much of anything really but comping. S1 let's me do pretty much all other functions

- Having a built-in pitch editor is nice but S1 has Melodyne built right in via ARA for everyone so I don't see this asa plus as imo nothing beats or is as good as Melodyne.

If those are the only 3 things you can think of then I'm sorry that's just not good enough compared to what S1 can do.

S1 - Strip Silence, Groove from audio (don't need to convert to Rex file then convert to a ReGroove template), Bend marker threshold controls (you get none in Reason, other than manually deleting slice markers). That's just the rudimentary stuff.

S1 - Detect and Extract Chords from audio. Have all audio follow the chords tracks. Tab to transient. I have even talked about macros which make working with audio even easier. Like Align Transients that lets me align transients with another audio file, or close gap, or cut to cursor. All things you would need to do manually (and tediously) in Reason.

S1 - Slip Editing

S1 - I can elect to contagious clips and edit the end and start of both at the same time.


As for workflow the whole Edit mode thing imo is just too slow for me. I despise having to go in and out of a mode because the Reason devs are to stubborn to realize that a separate Edit window is actually a better workflow vs going in and out of modes. Another gripe is the zoom behavior. I use a Mac and the trackpad, I pinch to zoom. It works like garbage in Reason, that slows audio editing down significantly for me. S1 has Pinch to Zoom that works great. I don't know how Reason Mac users deal with it but it frustrates me so much. I know there is some hammerspoon script out there but with all the other things I mentioned it's not worth the effort nor do I think a modern Mac app should require that.

There is a lot more S1 can do that I haven't even touched on. I'm sure you like Reason's tools but they are in no way shape or form better (IMO) than S1 if you are editing and working with audio daily. If take recording is all that matters to you then sure, maybe that's a tad better in Reason, but the inflexibility otherwise makes it a chore to use.

Statistics: Posted by apoclypse — Fri Jan 05, 2024 2:27 am



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